Mar 21, 2023·edited Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
Hi Katie,
I totally feel you. These apps are designed to be addictive and around 50% people believe they overuse their phone. I am now researching about social media addiction and potential interventions for my MSc thesis, so maybe I can give you some tips. Mostly I want to share the main points of the system that worked for me. It involved both working on myself and changing some settings on my phone.
PSYCHOLOGICAL SIDE:
- I learnt the difference between adaptive and maladaptive behavior, and recognized that I was using social media as a way to escape the negative feelings of boredom, tiredness, and hard work
- Figured out some of the harmful cognitive distortions that I had around social media. In my case, they were mostly related to catastrophizing and choice-supported bias. (check my newsletter post #2. to find out the distortions you might have)
- Replaced my behavior with other activities, like reading ebooks on my phone
- Learnt and internalized how I feel after using social media. In my case, I feel like my thoughts are scattered all over the place, and I find it difficult to focus
- Connected with my values and figured out what specific features of social media I care about (DMs, seeing what my friend are up to...), and which I do not (looking at instagram reels or equivalent...)
TECHNOLOGY SIDE:
- Instagram, I use the web version of it and I check it only in the evening to see updates or reply to messages
- Facebook, I uninstalled the app, but I keep FB messenger
- Youtube, only from my laptop. I use the extension Distraction Free Youtube
- Linkeding, I uninstalled the app. I don't check it, but I have it email me if I get new messages.
- I also created a custom shortcut for my phone to put my phone in black and white when I am on Safari or other addictive apps.
If you are interested in more of this, feel free to contact me directly or check my substack newsletter https://dachi.substack.com
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
I agree--taking social apps off of my phone helps so much. I still log into my computer a few times a week (mostly IG and less often FB groups), but I don’t get as sucked in there. And the user experience on IG isn’t as good on desktop (such as for stories). The problem is I still find myself looking for that connection/dopamine hit on my phone. Which often leads to news headlines or celebrity gossip (even though I barely know who any of the people are). I’m trying to use the Substack app to counter those tendencies.
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Rebecca Coates, Katie Hawkins-Gaar
I feel this so much! It's even harder because our phones are so necessary for things throughout the day that it's almost impossible to truly disconnect and keep it out of sight. I don't have the perfect solution but I've been working to try to block schedule my days a bit more, and I feel like if you allot a certain amount of time or certain time of day for scrolling through your phone, you won't feel as guilty about doing it, and also will kind of give yourself a set stop time as well. I'll also just turn the volume up and leave it in the other room now as much as I can so that I know I'll hear it ring or beep if someone needs me, but I don't feel quite as chained to it as I used to.
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
This is the thing, right? where our phones have become so necessary to even function in a society day to day. People text and then when you don’t answer in a little bit, they call you and when you ignore their call because you need to be getting stuff done for yourself, they worry you might not be ok so they call for a wellness check and the next thing you know, there is a young man with a badge ringing your doorbell when all you wanted was a solid day with yourself and a book and your dog and no phone notifications pinging off at you... it’s exhausting (yes, this was a day of mine, Feb 3rd to be exact... I wish it were hyperbole... so exhausting... )
Is it healthy? ABSOLUTELY NOT! I should be able to “disappear” for a day. All of us should be able to.
On the everyday thing, I’m waiting on a doctors office to send out a bill for a recent visit. They just don’t send out in the mail anymore; check your MyChart... but they are also a corporate health care so they will send it to collections on day 91, no appeal... they also have a history of sending out bills late or ... not at all despite saying they did. It’s so exhausting.
And now this banking crap has us all checking out bank accounts several times a day, knowing these folks will cheat us out of money if they can get away with it... again, kinda need a phone...
It’s not just the social media apps.,. It’s all of it. This whole mess that was supposed to free us to achieve great pinnacles of human achievement. Instead, it’s shackled and leashed is all, angry at everyone around us for our imprisonment disguised as freedom.
And your experience getting a wellness check-in from the police!? Wow! On the one hand, glad you have people who care for your well-being, but you're absolutely right: we should be able to "disappear" for a day without causing alarm!
I’m unsure if they care about me or their own lives getting less comfortable without me. .... anyway, that is a whole other thing. I am a little older and my iPhone tells me my walking steadiness is low (CIDP) so I get it, but managing a chronic condition and everyone else’s anxiety for the past 11 years since ... anyway, it’s ok... thanks for commenting...
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
Yes! And I also find it so ironic that I need my phone to receive text codes to verify my identity to log into my bank account, as well as my work email. Can't get away from the phones at all!
Mar 21, 2023·edited Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar
I like the IDEA of MyChart, but the implementation... I want to do MedicareForAll, single payer, universal coverage and care... I don’t want to see invoices or codes or any of that stuff. I’d like all my medical records in one place so any doctor anywhere anytime can pull it all up so I never have to start over explaining stuff for the 100th time or fill out an identical form for the 4,534th time.
But yeah, MyChart is the exact sort of crap you get when tech people and VCs think they know how to practice medicine and think the liberal arts are a waste of time...
Yes! Totally agree. One of the few times I do miss the land line as well. Super hard to disconnect when we have kids...I feel like I keep my phone glued to me whenever my daughter's not by my side in case her school ever calls or needs to reach me.
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
This is probably the struggle of our time and I think connected to so many other issues, like our difficulty forming community. Real people are so much less entertaining and more difficult than IG. I listened to a podcast about how smartphones affect our attention. Like studies show that if your phone is even sitting next to you while you’re having a face to face conversation, you pay less attention than if your phone wasn’t there. Horrifying.
I noticed this for myself in relation to reading. I was having that feeling of being totally lost in a book less and less because my attention span is so much shorter. I’d read for a bit, then pick up my phone. Repeat.
I don’t have the answers. Just compassion for being right there with you.
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
This phone challenge is hard in the classroom. Having it so close... I have to put my phone off or away to feel peace but as a mom, I can’t always go that.
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Rebecca Coates, Katie Hawkins-Gaar
This is me! I was off Facebook for 8 years & pretty much every 2 years I delete my Instagram for anywhere from 6-12 months. What I figured out was I am ok with using the socials as long as I don’t post stuff because that’s when I chase the dopamine hit of likes/follows/comments. I use FB purely for one group & my kids school /sporting updates. That’s it. I’ve curated my Insta feed so I have no real life friends or family there, I want to interact with them in real life. I only follow people that I’m truly interested in, so for me that’s cooking people, authors, podcasters & some anti diet people. That’s it. I think it’s around 100 people. It feels manageable & fun right now but who knows for how long.
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
It’s awesome you kept your IG feed at 100 people. Mine is likewise positive, inspiring people, such as artists. But then I hear about someone new and I follow them too and it continues. I try to mute stories of most people a couple of times a year to avoid that time suck.
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
I find the mindless scrolling is, in a strange way, quite a good interstitial space to land in right after my son is finally in bed. It allows me to decompress after full-on parenting time. But the danger is, of course, that it stretches into, and eats up, the whole evening. So I’ve become (mostly) quite good at setting myself a deadline - eg I allow myself 15/20 minutes & then switch my phone onto airplane & try & focus on something I enjoy & know is nourishing rather than depleting. I remind myself that the evenings are the only chance in the day I’ll get to do said thing, be it a bath, book or movie, & that seems to usually spur me on.
Mar 21, 2023·edited Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
Wow, this resonates. I wish I had answers. I just have the same struggle. Only with older kids, now it hurts even more as I see them in the same trap I am in, but apparently without the desire to get out of the trap. I add worry for their mental stability, for their ability to thrive, for the loss of experiencing the world. They seem as addicted to their phones as I. Yet fighting them on it alienates me from them. Despite once thinking I was highly intelligent, emotionally aware, and parentally savvy, I am left with hope and prayer it seems. Maybe more developed people than I figured out how to simply accept the situation and do the best they can within it? Or a less charitable thought - maybe they figured out how to ignore or forget that nagging feeling that something is wrong and just gave up hope? But what are we left with, those of us who wish for things to be different? I commend the woman in Canadian news trying to sue Fortnite for making their game as addictive as possible. I hope she wins something for those of us who feel the impacts most. It might not be something we can solve very well if we have a certain type of mind or tendency towards addiction. But maybe that’s the answer? It’s not an individual problem to solve, but needs societal pressure away from addictive design?
The feel as a parent watching your kids be sucked into technology is really hard. My kids aren't even that old (almost 7 and 4.5), but it feels like a losing battle no matter which way you cut it.
As a parent of a tween and teen and a teacher of teenagers, I feel this deeply. I also really respect how you recognize that calling them out further alienates
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Rebecca Coates, Katie Hawkins-Gaar
Totally with you on the struggles with dropping nap time - I’ve spent way too much mental energy in fixating about how much sleep my daughter has had in the day, how long they need to nap for, and how it’ll impact their night time sleep. It’s so draining.
In fact, most aspects of parenting small children are. It’s so all-encompassing that, after they’ve finally stopped emotionally abusing me for the day and gone to bed, all I want to do is unplug my brain and fall into an Instagram doomscroll. I’d love to catch up on some of the box sets I’ve heard loads about, meditate or do something worthwhile, but I’m so drained. And I don’t want to go to bed early either because as a parent of a young child, every ounce of free time is golden. I need time to switch off before I go to bed, ready to wake up as dad again.
It’s good to check in with this kind of thing every now and again though. This post will hopefully inspire me to lock the phone away - even for a bit - once the kids are asleep.
I feel this! I will offer that I recently decided to go to bed really early on a few nights during the last couple of weeks (like, 8:30 PM, right after getting my kids in bed). While I don't want to do that *every* night, I think I will choose to do that more often going forward. To your point about wanting to "switch off" before having to wake up and be Dad again, I think my choosing to LITERALLY switch off and put my body into rest mode for a few extra hours helped me wake up and tackle Mom mode with a bit more oomph, as it were, the following day.
I think that mentality of having some precious "no-kid" time after bed, especially as parents, can easily turn into the same attitude behind revenge bedtime procrastination. We're telling ourselves we NEED to use that post-bedtime period to be our kid-free selves, but largely because we feel like that time is so rare we HAVE to use it, almost as an act of defiance. That's not to say we should choose sleep EVERY night, but that it's definitely not a waste to do so sometimes ... Even regularly!
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
It's definitely an act of defiance on my part - I remember when our daughter was just born I'd play video games when the baby was asleep, full in the knowledge that it was prime napping time I was wasting. I found it quite hard to leave behind certain elements of my "old life" - I guess little parts of that defiance still linger on those evenings when I refuse to go to bed at a reasonable hour, despite my tiredness.
But you're right - it's kinder to our future selves just to get some proper sleep.
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
It’s like you’re reading my mind, Katie! As for me, in a way Elon Musk taking over Twitter has been a blessing, because ever since he did, that site has become much duller and flatter and more predictable, and I’m finding myself drawn to it less. Kinda the same thing has happened with Instagram too; their push into video to complete with TikTok has, for me anyway, brought about an experience that feels less and less like it’s for me. (I still hop on there, of course! But it feels like it’s all video all the time now.)
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Rebecca Coates, Katie Hawkins-Gaar
At 72, I've given up. Now I wake up from a dream, disconnect the charging cable on my iPhone and wonder why I haven't upgraded to a 14 Pro. I shared your story on caring for your wee one. My son and his wife are dealing with similar challenges each day!
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
I would suggest trying to give yourself an evening schedule. I’ve done that for a few years pretty successfully. Once I’m “off the clock” the first thing I do is some sort of movement--yoga, Pilates, or a ballet video is what I like. Then I move onto a “task” I chose ahead of time. So on Mondays I might work in my embroidery, on Wednesday I might read, Friday might be logging into a online workshop or virtual social event. The other nights my husband and I spend together, usually without screens. (He reads aloud to me, we read long book series together that way. It’s old fashioned I guess but we both enjoy it).
Of course I go through phases where I scroll to much or put apps back on my phone (usually for a “reason” such as marketing an art show in, IG doesn’t have all the same features on desktop). Where I watch a show alone instead of doing anything I like. But instead of guilting myself for taking a break from the discipline of a schedule, I try to just notice when it’s time to come back. Nicole Antoinette just had a newsletter this week about this.
your evenings sound alot like mine. i am so happy for spring as i do love gardening and that is one thing i do that makes me lose track of my dumb phone completely. i put on some music or a podcast (either with a blue tooth speaker or AirPods with phone on airplane mode) and get down in the dirt. time flies and my head and heart clear. i am no master gardener, more of a putter-er ... but even just raking grass or dead-heading flowers for 30 min is so calming and joyful.
One thing that has helped me is never having social media on my phone. That's right, if I want to get on Facebook I go to my Desktop computer and deliberately look at it just like in the good old days (2007). Sometimes I still spend too much time on it but I have to assume that not having it at my fingertips all the time has helped curb some of that.
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Rebecca Coates, Katie Hawkins-Gaar
Katie,
First off, condolences on the nap situation. Second, I noticed you quoted Mary Oliver’s “The Summer Day.” I think it’s fitting and funny that people often use that poem to inspire- to question, to ask what they are “doing” with their lives, she is inviting us to be…”to be idle and blessed”…”to stroll through the fields …all day.” Actual being- actual presence is hard work and the decks are stacked against us currently. Since I started my Substack a few weeks ago, I check my stats constantly and my Substack messages- when will it be enough? This morning while meditating over Beene Browns The Gifts of Imperfection, I reminded myself that I created something beautiful for myself and others. Can I wrap that around me like a warm blanket? Will I still check my messages today? Probably. I am treating myself like a baby/toddler though. I purchased a battery alarm so I can keep my phone out of my bedroom in the evening. I have been so excited about my new writing life that I rise early and start writing and then I am exhausted all day. I know getting up at 5 worked for Oliver, but it is not working for me. I fell asleep at a lunch meeting yesterday with two students. I think Tricia Hersey would have been proud. The nap was probably the only thing I did right yesterday to take care of myself. But I wasn’t present for them or for myself. You have a young child. It is harder to remember to take care of yourself. Hoping you get to give it a go this week. Thank you for your writing.
Mar 21, 2023Liked by Katie Hawkins-Gaar, Rebecca Coates
Hi! I am a naturally early morning riser (530 or 6!) but I found myself scrolling on my phone and not getting out of bed until 8am or later. That was 2-2.5 hours with nothing to show, and I was always in danger of being late to my first meetings.
I run a startup accelerator and one of the companies in our program is Unpluq (unpluq.com). Their app helps you set up schedules to block apps on your phone and "get off your screen and back into your life". If you have an android, you can use a NFC tag to unblock the apps when you need to access them (or there are motions that you can use like shaking your phone or taking a certain # of steps to unblock). I keep the NFC tag on my keys which are rarely near my phone when I'm at home, and it turns out I'm way too lazy to get up and get them when I want to access the apps!
At first i didn't think I had much of a problem or a reason to use their product, but then I realized that I wanted productive mornings back in my life- I used to get so much done by 8am! So I sheepishly admitted my problem, downloaded the app and set it to have FB, insta, linkedin, tiktok, and Twitter blocked from 930pm to 730am. Since January, I have gotten so much time back - over 6 full days so far! In that time I've read nearly 10 books, have managed to improve my sleep (my phone stays out of my bedroom cuz there's no reason for it to be in there), and this month, I've used the extra time to do a 30day yoga challenge.
Long story short, it's been a great solution for me and I enthusiastically recommend giving it a try! www.unpluq.com (yes, a q not a g) and I can also provide an intro to the founders if helpful!
Oh my God! It seemed like you described my whole life's dilemma. I have am constantly looking for ways to help me through this as well. Recently heart in Huberman lab that the only way to really do this is by detoxing yourself for a long time - I am currently on this detox & aiming to do this for 3 months. But my issue is watching too much Netflix - the opposite of you LOL. But still similar in many ways. So I am not going to watch anything for the next 3 months and I am only using social media for work related research - 1 hour a day. The rule I have for myself is to have no screen after a certain hour.
I used to hate my phone usage, and the way that I expressed that was by criticizing my husband every time he looked at his phone. It was a very productive and relationship-affirming approach to the issue, as you can imaging.
When I was about six months into my infertility journey I got off all social media--it's one of the gifts that infertility gave me. I couldn't stand seeing babies. It was not an option for me to be on Instagram or Facebook, the pain was too extreme. Because that journey lasted for years, I became used to life with no social...so much so that I forgot all my passwords and now can't even sign in to my old Twitter or IG. I have to say, it's wonderful. Unlike you, I did not feel disconnected as a result. I guess my experience was that my close friends kept in touch in other ways, and everyone else...well...I only have a limited amount of friend capacity anyways, it turns out :)
I recently (just a couple weeks ago!), and very hesitantly, started a new Instagram to share my writing. I do not have the app, I do not follow friends, and I basically do not check it much.
The phone is still hard, even without social. Somehow I find another thing to check--the news, my Substack stats 🙄. My best tactic is just putting the phone in another room, ideally on a different floor. I was inspired by Anne Lembke's book, Dopamine Nation. She's a psychiatrist focused on addiction, and she goes into the similarities between modern phone addiction (and sweet foods and many aspect of modern life) and drug addiction. You mentioned some similar themes in this essay. One of the key tactics for addicts, according to Lembke, is "self binding," basically making it hard to get the thing you're addicted to. So I guess I engage in low-level self-binding with my phone.
One other thing - I think it is so tempting to define the poles: either I spend my evenings scrolling on my phone or I spend it learning how to sew and making my own shams. I do this ALL THE TIME. But I think the goal is to land somewhere in the middle. Not scrolling, not sewing, but reading fiction for twenty minutes then watching Ted Lasso. Something like that.
Anyways, thank you for the great food for thought!
Sewing seems like a pretty cool use of time. Also, pretty cool how vulnerable you were about some of your very real issues with social media. I’m sorry for your struggle.
Hi Katie,
I totally feel you. These apps are designed to be addictive and around 50% people believe they overuse their phone. I am now researching about social media addiction and potential interventions for my MSc thesis, so maybe I can give you some tips. Mostly I want to share the main points of the system that worked for me. It involved both working on myself and changing some settings on my phone.
PSYCHOLOGICAL SIDE:
- I learnt the difference between adaptive and maladaptive behavior, and recognized that I was using social media as a way to escape the negative feelings of boredom, tiredness, and hard work
- Figured out some of the harmful cognitive distortions that I had around social media. In my case, they were mostly related to catastrophizing and choice-supported bias. (check my newsletter post #2. to find out the distortions you might have)
- Replaced my behavior with other activities, like reading ebooks on my phone
- Learnt and internalized how I feel after using social media. In my case, I feel like my thoughts are scattered all over the place, and I find it difficult to focus
- Connected with my values and figured out what specific features of social media I care about (DMs, seeing what my friend are up to...), and which I do not (looking at instagram reels or equivalent...)
TECHNOLOGY SIDE:
- Instagram, I use the web version of it and I check it only in the evening to see updates or reply to messages
- Facebook, I uninstalled the app, but I keep FB messenger
- Youtube, only from my laptop. I use the extension Distraction Free Youtube
- Linkeding, I uninstalled the app. I don't check it, but I have it email me if I get new messages.
- I also created a custom shortcut for my phone to put my phone in black and white when I am on Safari or other addictive apps.
If you are interested in more of this, feel free to contact me directly or check my substack newsletter https://dachi.substack.com
Best,
Antonio
These are fantastic tips and insights, Antonio. Thank you!!
I agree--taking social apps off of my phone helps so much. I still log into my computer a few times a week (mostly IG and less often FB groups), but I don’t get as sucked in there. And the user experience on IG isn’t as good on desktop (such as for stories). The problem is I still find myself looking for that connection/dopamine hit on my phone. Which often leads to news headlines or celebrity gossip (even though I barely know who any of the people are). I’m trying to use the Substack app to counter those tendencies.
I feel this so much! It's even harder because our phones are so necessary for things throughout the day that it's almost impossible to truly disconnect and keep it out of sight. I don't have the perfect solution but I've been working to try to block schedule my days a bit more, and I feel like if you allot a certain amount of time or certain time of day for scrolling through your phone, you won't feel as guilty about doing it, and also will kind of give yourself a set stop time as well. I'll also just turn the volume up and leave it in the other room now as much as I can so that I know I'll hear it ring or beep if someone needs me, but I don't feel quite as chained to it as I used to.
This is the thing, right? where our phones have become so necessary to even function in a society day to day. People text and then when you don’t answer in a little bit, they call you and when you ignore their call because you need to be getting stuff done for yourself, they worry you might not be ok so they call for a wellness check and the next thing you know, there is a young man with a badge ringing your doorbell when all you wanted was a solid day with yourself and a book and your dog and no phone notifications pinging off at you... it’s exhausting (yes, this was a day of mine, Feb 3rd to be exact... I wish it were hyperbole... so exhausting... )
Is it healthy? ABSOLUTELY NOT! I should be able to “disappear” for a day. All of us should be able to.
On the everyday thing, I’m waiting on a doctors office to send out a bill for a recent visit. They just don’t send out in the mail anymore; check your MyChart... but they are also a corporate health care so they will send it to collections on day 91, no appeal... they also have a history of sending out bills late or ... not at all despite saying they did. It’s so exhausting.
And now this banking crap has us all checking out bank accounts several times a day, knowing these folks will cheat us out of money if they can get away with it... again, kinda need a phone...
It’s not just the social media apps.,. It’s all of it. This whole mess that was supposed to free us to achieve great pinnacles of human achievement. Instead, it’s shackled and leashed is all, angry at everyone around us for our imprisonment disguised as freedom.
You hit the nail(s) on the head.
And your experience getting a wellness check-in from the police!? Wow! On the one hand, glad you have people who care for your well-being, but you're absolutely right: we should be able to "disappear" for a day without causing alarm!
I’m unsure if they care about me or their own lives getting less comfortable without me. .... anyway, that is a whole other thing. I am a little older and my iPhone tells me my walking steadiness is low (CIDP) so I get it, but managing a chronic condition and everyone else’s anxiety for the past 11 years since ... anyway, it’s ok... thanks for commenting...
Yes! And I also find it so ironic that I need my phone to receive text codes to verify my identity to log into my bank account, as well as my work email. Can't get away from the phones at all!
I hate My Chart.
I like the IDEA of MyChart, but the implementation... I want to do MedicareForAll, single payer, universal coverage and care... I don’t want to see invoices or codes or any of that stuff. I’d like all my medical records in one place so any doctor anywhere anytime can pull it all up so I never have to start over explaining stuff for the 100th time or fill out an identical form for the 4,534th time.
But yeah, MyChart is the exact sort of crap you get when tech people and VCs think they know how to practice medicine and think the liberal arts are a waste of time...
I do the same and concur that it is hard- I tried to do that yesterday and then realized my son might need me while out- kinda miss the land line
Yes! Totally agree. One of the few times I do miss the land line as well. Super hard to disconnect when we have kids...I feel like I keep my phone glued to me whenever my daughter's not by my side in case her school ever calls or needs to reach me.
This is probably the struggle of our time and I think connected to so many other issues, like our difficulty forming community. Real people are so much less entertaining and more difficult than IG. I listened to a podcast about how smartphones affect our attention. Like studies show that if your phone is even sitting next to you while you’re having a face to face conversation, you pay less attention than if your phone wasn’t there. Horrifying.
I noticed this for myself in relation to reading. I was having that feeling of being totally lost in a book less and less because my attention span is so much shorter. I’d read for a bit, then pick up my phone. Repeat.
I don’t have the answers. Just compassion for being right there with you.
This phone challenge is hard in the classroom. Having it so close... I have to put my phone off or away to feel peace but as a mom, I can’t always go that.
This is me! I was off Facebook for 8 years & pretty much every 2 years I delete my Instagram for anywhere from 6-12 months. What I figured out was I am ok with using the socials as long as I don’t post stuff because that’s when I chase the dopamine hit of likes/follows/comments. I use FB purely for one group & my kids school /sporting updates. That’s it. I’ve curated my Insta feed so I have no real life friends or family there, I want to interact with them in real life. I only follow people that I’m truly interested in, so for me that’s cooking people, authors, podcasters & some anti diet people. That’s it. I think it’s around 100 people. It feels manageable & fun right now but who knows for how long.
It’s awesome you kept your IG feed at 100 people. Mine is likewise positive, inspiring people, such as artists. But then I hear about someone new and I follow them too and it continues. I try to mute stories of most people a couple of times a year to avoid that time suck.
I find the mindless scrolling is, in a strange way, quite a good interstitial space to land in right after my son is finally in bed. It allows me to decompress after full-on parenting time. But the danger is, of course, that it stretches into, and eats up, the whole evening. So I’ve become (mostly) quite good at setting myself a deadline - eg I allow myself 15/20 minutes & then switch my phone onto airplane & try & focus on something I enjoy & know is nourishing rather than depleting. I remind myself that the evenings are the only chance in the day I’ll get to do said thing, be it a bath, book or movie, & that seems to usually spur me on.
Wow, this resonates. I wish I had answers. I just have the same struggle. Only with older kids, now it hurts even more as I see them in the same trap I am in, but apparently without the desire to get out of the trap. I add worry for their mental stability, for their ability to thrive, for the loss of experiencing the world. They seem as addicted to their phones as I. Yet fighting them on it alienates me from them. Despite once thinking I was highly intelligent, emotionally aware, and parentally savvy, I am left with hope and prayer it seems. Maybe more developed people than I figured out how to simply accept the situation and do the best they can within it? Or a less charitable thought - maybe they figured out how to ignore or forget that nagging feeling that something is wrong and just gave up hope? But what are we left with, those of us who wish for things to be different? I commend the woman in Canadian news trying to sue Fortnite for making their game as addictive as possible. I hope she wins something for those of us who feel the impacts most. It might not be something we can solve very well if we have a certain type of mind or tendency towards addiction. But maybe that’s the answer? It’s not an individual problem to solve, but needs societal pressure away from addictive design?
The feel as a parent watching your kids be sucked into technology is really hard. My kids aren't even that old (almost 7 and 4.5), but it feels like a losing battle no matter which way you cut it.
As a parent of a tween and teen and a teacher of teenagers, I feel this deeply. I also really respect how you recognize that calling them out further alienates
Totally with you on the struggles with dropping nap time - I’ve spent way too much mental energy in fixating about how much sleep my daughter has had in the day, how long they need to nap for, and how it’ll impact their night time sleep. It’s so draining.
In fact, most aspects of parenting small children are. It’s so all-encompassing that, after they’ve finally stopped emotionally abusing me for the day and gone to bed, all I want to do is unplug my brain and fall into an Instagram doomscroll. I’d love to catch up on some of the box sets I’ve heard loads about, meditate or do something worthwhile, but I’m so drained. And I don’t want to go to bed early either because as a parent of a young child, every ounce of free time is golden. I need time to switch off before I go to bed, ready to wake up as dad again.
It’s good to check in with this kind of thing every now and again though. This post will hopefully inspire me to lock the phone away - even for a bit - once the kids are asleep.
I feel this! I will offer that I recently decided to go to bed really early on a few nights during the last couple of weeks (like, 8:30 PM, right after getting my kids in bed). While I don't want to do that *every* night, I think I will choose to do that more often going forward. To your point about wanting to "switch off" before having to wake up and be Dad again, I think my choosing to LITERALLY switch off and put my body into rest mode for a few extra hours helped me wake up and tackle Mom mode with a bit more oomph, as it were, the following day.
I think that mentality of having some precious "no-kid" time after bed, especially as parents, can easily turn into the same attitude behind revenge bedtime procrastination. We're telling ourselves we NEED to use that post-bedtime period to be our kid-free selves, but largely because we feel like that time is so rare we HAVE to use it, almost as an act of defiance. That's not to say we should choose sleep EVERY night, but that it's definitely not a waste to do so sometimes ... Even regularly!
Solidarity. Raising kids is hard stuff.
It's definitely an act of defiance on my part - I remember when our daughter was just born I'd play video games when the baby was asleep, full in the knowledge that it was prime napping time I was wasting. I found it quite hard to leave behind certain elements of my "old life" - I guess little parts of that defiance still linger on those evenings when I refuse to go to bed at a reasonable hour, despite my tiredness.
But you're right - it's kinder to our future selves just to get some proper sleep.
I think you hit on something real here- that we can almost be too tired to take care of ourselves
It’s like you’re reading my mind, Katie! As for me, in a way Elon Musk taking over Twitter has been a blessing, because ever since he did, that site has become much duller and flatter and more predictable, and I’m finding myself drawn to it less. Kinda the same thing has happened with Instagram too; their push into video to complete with TikTok has, for me anyway, brought about an experience that feels less and less like it’s for me. (I still hop on there, of course! But it feels like it’s all video all the time now.)
Yes! I am so much less drawn to Twitter than I once was. What a funny silver lining!
Love you finding the silver lining in that debacle
😂reading backwards and we had the same thought
At 72, I've given up. Now I wake up from a dream, disconnect the charging cable on my iPhone and wonder why I haven't upgraded to a 14 Pro. I shared your story on caring for your wee one. My son and his wife are dealing with similar challenges each day!
I would suggest trying to give yourself an evening schedule. I’ve done that for a few years pretty successfully. Once I’m “off the clock” the first thing I do is some sort of movement--yoga, Pilates, or a ballet video is what I like. Then I move onto a “task” I chose ahead of time. So on Mondays I might work in my embroidery, on Wednesday I might read, Friday might be logging into a online workshop or virtual social event. The other nights my husband and I spend together, usually without screens. (He reads aloud to me, we read long book series together that way. It’s old fashioned I guess but we both enjoy it).
Of course I go through phases where I scroll to much or put apps back on my phone (usually for a “reason” such as marketing an art show in, IG doesn’t have all the same features on desktop). Where I watch a show alone instead of doing anything I like. But instead of guilting myself for taking a break from the discipline of a schedule, I try to just notice when it’s time to come back. Nicole Antoinette just had a newsletter this week about this.
Oh this schedule sounds dreamy. (Also so sweet that you and your husband read to each other!!) Thanks for sharing, Katie!
your evenings sound alot like mine. i am so happy for spring as i do love gardening and that is one thing i do that makes me lose track of my dumb phone completely. i put on some music or a podcast (either with a blue tooth speaker or AirPods with phone on airplane mode) and get down in the dirt. time flies and my head and heart clear. i am no master gardener, more of a putter-er ... but even just raking grass or dead-heading flowers for 30 min is so calming and joyful.
This works for me too
One thing that has helped me is never having social media on my phone. That's right, if I want to get on Facebook I go to my Desktop computer and deliberately look at it just like in the good old days (2007). Sometimes I still spend too much time on it but I have to assume that not having it at my fingertips all the time has helped curb some of that.
Also today someone mentioned putting their phone in grayscale mode to make it less appealing and have said that it works. I have never heard of it but thought it was interesting. https://www.wired.com/story/grayscale-ios-android-smartphone-addiction/
Katie,
First off, condolences on the nap situation. Second, I noticed you quoted Mary Oliver’s “The Summer Day.” I think it’s fitting and funny that people often use that poem to inspire- to question, to ask what they are “doing” with their lives, she is inviting us to be…”to be idle and blessed”…”to stroll through the fields …all day.” Actual being- actual presence is hard work and the decks are stacked against us currently. Since I started my Substack a few weeks ago, I check my stats constantly and my Substack messages- when will it be enough? This morning while meditating over Beene Browns The Gifts of Imperfection, I reminded myself that I created something beautiful for myself and others. Can I wrap that around me like a warm blanket? Will I still check my messages today? Probably. I am treating myself like a baby/toddler though. I purchased a battery alarm so I can keep my phone out of my bedroom in the evening. I have been so excited about my new writing life that I rise early and start writing and then I am exhausted all day. I know getting up at 5 worked for Oliver, but it is not working for me. I fell asleep at a lunch meeting yesterday with two students. I think Tricia Hersey would have been proud. The nap was probably the only thing I did right yesterday to take care of myself. But I wasn’t present for them or for myself. You have a young child. It is harder to remember to take care of yourself. Hoping you get to give it a go this week. Thank you for your writing.
Hi! I am a naturally early morning riser (530 or 6!) but I found myself scrolling on my phone and not getting out of bed until 8am or later. That was 2-2.5 hours with nothing to show, and I was always in danger of being late to my first meetings.
I run a startup accelerator and one of the companies in our program is Unpluq (unpluq.com). Their app helps you set up schedules to block apps on your phone and "get off your screen and back into your life". If you have an android, you can use a NFC tag to unblock the apps when you need to access them (or there are motions that you can use like shaking your phone or taking a certain # of steps to unblock). I keep the NFC tag on my keys which are rarely near my phone when I'm at home, and it turns out I'm way too lazy to get up and get them when I want to access the apps!
At first i didn't think I had much of a problem or a reason to use their product, but then I realized that I wanted productive mornings back in my life- I used to get so much done by 8am! So I sheepishly admitted my problem, downloaded the app and set it to have FB, insta, linkedin, tiktok, and Twitter blocked from 930pm to 730am. Since January, I have gotten so much time back - over 6 full days so far! In that time I've read nearly 10 books, have managed to improve my sleep (my phone stays out of my bedroom cuz there's no reason for it to be in there), and this month, I've used the extra time to do a 30day yoga challenge.
Long story short, it's been a great solution for me and I enthusiastically recommend giving it a try! www.unpluq.com (yes, a q not a g) and I can also provide an intro to the founders if helpful!
Oh my God! It seemed like you described my whole life's dilemma. I have am constantly looking for ways to help me through this as well. Recently heart in Huberman lab that the only way to really do this is by detoxing yourself for a long time - I am currently on this detox & aiming to do this for 3 months. But my issue is watching too much Netflix - the opposite of you LOL. But still similar in many ways. So I am not going to watch anything for the next 3 months and I am only using social media for work related research - 1 hour a day. The rule I have for myself is to have no screen after a certain hour.
So far I am able to do this. Fingers crossed.
Hi Katie! Wonderful musings, as always.
I used to hate my phone usage, and the way that I expressed that was by criticizing my husband every time he looked at his phone. It was a very productive and relationship-affirming approach to the issue, as you can imaging.
When I was about six months into my infertility journey I got off all social media--it's one of the gifts that infertility gave me. I couldn't stand seeing babies. It was not an option for me to be on Instagram or Facebook, the pain was too extreme. Because that journey lasted for years, I became used to life with no social...so much so that I forgot all my passwords and now can't even sign in to my old Twitter or IG. I have to say, it's wonderful. Unlike you, I did not feel disconnected as a result. I guess my experience was that my close friends kept in touch in other ways, and everyone else...well...I only have a limited amount of friend capacity anyways, it turns out :)
I recently (just a couple weeks ago!), and very hesitantly, started a new Instagram to share my writing. I do not have the app, I do not follow friends, and I basically do not check it much.
The phone is still hard, even without social. Somehow I find another thing to check--the news, my Substack stats 🙄. My best tactic is just putting the phone in another room, ideally on a different floor. I was inspired by Anne Lembke's book, Dopamine Nation. She's a psychiatrist focused on addiction, and she goes into the similarities between modern phone addiction (and sweet foods and many aspect of modern life) and drug addiction. You mentioned some similar themes in this essay. One of the key tactics for addicts, according to Lembke, is "self binding," basically making it hard to get the thing you're addicted to. So I guess I engage in low-level self-binding with my phone.
One other thing - I think it is so tempting to define the poles: either I spend my evenings scrolling on my phone or I spend it learning how to sew and making my own shams. I do this ALL THE TIME. But I think the goal is to land somewhere in the middle. Not scrolling, not sewing, but reading fiction for twenty minutes then watching Ted Lasso. Something like that.
Anyways, thank you for the great food for thought!
Sewing seems like a pretty cool use of time. Also, pretty cool how vulnerable you were about some of your very real issues with social media. I’m sorry for your struggle.